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Never Events — Shooting the Messenger

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Beginning October 1, 2008, Medicare, and many health insurance companies, will no longer pay hospitals for the additional services needed for patients who suffer from “never events.”

Never Events, as defined by the National Quality Forum, are those events which should never happen to a patient.  There are 28 errors on the list ranging from wrong site surgeries to drug errors to crimes committed by medical professionals.

Not included on the list from the NQF are HAIs (hospital-acquired infections).  There may be many reasons for this, but there are many groups and organizations that believe HAIs like MRSA, C.Diff and VRE SHOULD be included on the list.  Many of them, although not all of them, are preventable.

Regardless of what the left hand is doing (NQF), the right hand of payers (Medicare and many insurers) have decided that these infections will no longer be covered.  That means that any hospitalized patient who contracts, or at least presents with, an infection during a hospital stay may not be charged for the extra cost of treating the infection, nor will the hospital be paid by Medicare or many of the health insurance companies.

I don’t have the expertise to say whether this is right or wrong.  On the one hand, I believe it’s absolutely necessary to force hospitals to figure out ways to decrease the numbers of patients who contract these infections, estimated to be upwards of 5 million patients per year.

On the other hand, I know that sometimes patients arrive with pre-existing infections that may be apparent when they are admitted.  Can they be tested upon arrival?  Of course they can — although some hospital personnel point out how expensive that is, and that insurance won’t cover that either.  I have no doubt that there will be some problem for patients that crops up from this new ruling.  Hospitals will refuse to admit patients at risk, or they will discharge them too early so they can — at least in the paperwork — ignore an infection just as it begins.  Hospitals will do whatever they need to to protect their *sses — and it will be at the expense of patients.  Unintended consequences, all based on money.  What else is new?

During the past few days, a dialogue has taken place… wait… make that a diatribe…. on the blog of a certain “buckeye surgeon” where complaints and barbs have been thrown at a newspaper reporter who wrote about this October 1 date for reimbursement stoppage.  On just about the same day, the Wall Street Journal printed an article by Dr. Betsy McCaughey, founder of RID (Reduce Hospital Deaths) that gave some statistics about hospitals that have addressed infection problems — and have successfully reduced their numbers, one (claims) to 0 patients over a span of years.

So –I pulled some quotes from Dr. McCaughey’s WSJ article and posted them to the blog — and you would have thought I was the devil-incarnate…. whoa!  A regular lightening rod!  All those doctors so quickly turned their ire on me.  And I thought angry patients got worked up!  They can’t hold a candle to posters like “white coat” and “anonymous” who — God forbid — don’t even use their real names.

No — they attacked me one after the next.  In fact, it began when I suggested that SOME hospitals were actually trying to help patients!  SOME hospitals are actually asking their doctors and personnel to adhere to a checklist that — (you won’t believe this) — actually prevents infection!

Oh — one even attacked me for not being grateful that I was misdiagnosed with cancer.  She told me I should not have been upset at the misdiagnosis — I should have been relieved that I didn’t have it.  (My standard reply, which I didn’t bother with is — “gee — you didn’t get hit by a car today.  Are you relieved and grateful?”)  Of course — what on EARTH does this have to do with infections?  I’m not sure.

What’s the bottom line?  What can we learn from this?  Honestly — I do NOT believe that including HAIs on the list of never events Medicare and some insurances will no longer pay for was the right approach.  While some infections could have been listed and it would have been helpful, instead I think Medicare has only thrown down the gauntlet for hospitals to go underground.  Patients will pay the price in even worse health problems.  We must be more vigilant and be prepared to stand up for ourselves and our loved ones, and once October 1 rolls around, that will be even more difficult.

What the Trisha-bashing on the Buckeye Surgeon’s blog has shown me is that when we patients begin to stand up for our NEED for decent healthcare, we become the enemy.  The point I tried to make on a couple of the blog posts was that I think patients and providers need to remember that we have the same goal — improved patient care.  But those folks didn’t want to go there.  They just wanted to bash me.

I pray none of them is ever hurt by a medical error.  I hope none of them ever suffers at the hands of a medical practitioner who is probably just in a big hurry because he doesn’t get reimbursed well enough for his work.  I hope they don’t lose a loved one, like I did, after she acquires MRSA.

But mostly I hope they will stop taking their frustration out on the messenger.  Afterall — excuse me — I THOUGHT we all had the same goal?

Don’t we?

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MRSA: Patients Ignored, Left to Die - Redux

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Last January I posted three stories I had been told, all within a few days of each other, about patients who had acquired MRSA in the hospital and had been revictimized by the system that would not treat them, listen to them, or help them get well. Over the next several days, I was condemned, chastised and even told my allegations were off base…

Today another comment was left on that post, and it compelled me to follow up.  Because as disgusted as I was with the reaction to that original post, I am truly even more upset and disgusted by what this poor young woman wrote to me today….

Here’s the synopsis:

The original post was called “MRSA:  Patients Ignored, Left to Die.”  It told three stories.  The first one was about a young woman who had (to that point) been in the hospital for almost a year because her MRSA could not be controlled, and because the hospital was not taking the steps needed to help her.  Update:  The woman, Tameka, has since died, 11 months after acquiring the infection. To those of you who suggested the story was untrue — I suggest you explain that to the woman’s family.

The second story was about Maxine who had been struggling to find anyone to help her or her family get someone — anyone — to treat them for the MRSA they had all acquired.  A number of commenters told me that could not possibly be true…. yet since then I have received at least a dozen additional emails reporting exactly the same thing — plus the comment that was left today tells the same tale.

Further, a good friend, someone I work with frequently and who works in healthcare, is dealing with this exact scenario with her father.  After knee replacement surgery, and despite a spiking fever and a swollen red surgical site, her father’s surgeon kept telling her and her dad, “Looking good!”

Update on Maxine:  I have not heard from her in many months.  I don’t know if she has found treatment, and I don’t know if she has gotten past the infection.

The third story was about a young man, Jeff, who had been treated by an ungloved doctor in an emergency room who, when Jeff asked him to wash his hands and put on gloves, told Jeff that the “MRSA thing had been blown out all of proportion.”  I know that most of you reading this will be incredulous — but I can almost guarantee there are some of you who think that doctor is right.

Why the follow up today?  Because today I heard from Sarah who tells a very frightening and sad tale about the MRSA her mother acquired after surgery a few weeks ago.  I’m going to reprint her comment in its entirety below — or you can read the original here.

In effect, Sarah’s mother’s experience is a compilation of the three originals.  The very sad part is that this story is repeated MILLIONS OF TIMES A YEAR.  The CDC’s numbers are 1.7 million infections per year, but Dr. Betsy McCaughey, director of RID (Reduce Hospital Deaths) proves in this piece that that number is way too low.

So here we are, almost 8 months later, and infection rates and experiences have gone from bad to worse.  What will it take to pull those denial heads out of the infection sand?  How difficult can it possibly be for a provider to wash his hands before he touches a patient?  Why can’t hospitals test patients for MRSA before they are admitted, then care for them appropriately if they already have the infection?

Patients — my advice to you is two fold:

First:  take a can of lysol with you to the hospital.  Spray anything you will touch, or that will touch you.  TV remotes, telephones, bed rails, bed linens — any type of surface can harbor infections.

Second:  Don’t let anyone in a hospital or doctor’s office touch you without washing and sanitizing his/her hands first.  Do NOT go to any hospital that does not allow 24 hour visitation — then make sure there is someone with you 24 hours per day to be sure that anyone who touches you washs and sanitizes his/her hands first.  Plus, make sure any equipment has been sterilized — stethoscopes, IVs — even the IV ‘tree’ that holds those bags of liquid — spray it !

Of course, there are a dozen other steps you can take — but these are a start.

Yes — I know I get wound up — I can’t help it.  There are so many, many safety problems patients have to contend with when they access healthcare.  Not all of them are so easily preventable, but most of MRSA is.  It costs almost nothing for a healthcare provider to wash hands.  It costs next to nothing to test a patient as s/he enters the hospital, then to manage the care in a place removed from other patients who are not infected.

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Here is Sarah’s post.  You can find the original here.

My mom who lives in Fresno California was recently diagnosed with MRSA. She got it after a surgery. She started to have pain and was throwing up. Her doctor that performed the surgery was in denial that she had MRSA.  Before my mom had the surgery she was scared that she was going to get MRSA. She has Lupus so her immune system is not good.  She did have the surgery and 4 days later she got violently sick. The doctor would not run a test to see if she had it.

The hospital doctor had to step in and order the test and four days later sure enough the test were positive.  After that her doctor finally came by to see her ( which he had not been back to see her since she first got ill and she had requested to be tested for MRSA ) he called her some unkindly names and refused to treat her. Everything happened in front of the hospital staff. He is the one who did the surgery and now he is REFUSING TO TREAT HER!  And the scary thing is that he had orders for her to have a catheter put in her.

The hospital doctor of course did not put a catheter in her.  The hospital doctor had to treat her and the doctor for disease control is also treating her.  They discharged her after 3 weeks in the hospital. So don’t tell me that MRSA is no big deal and don’t tell me that doctors and staff will not refuse to treat someone.  I know that by law they have to but that does not mean that they will.  They will come up with some kind of reason of why they can’t.


Not everyone can be treated by text book. In my moms case she already had a bad immune system you would think that after knowing my moms medical history that it would make sense to test for MRSA before having the surgery. Now after being out of the hospital for 1 week she started to throw up and was having pains again.  Since she can not find a doctor that will treat her she had no choice but to go to the ER. The staff there was rude! She informed them that she has MRSA and that she currently has an open wound and she also has a vacuum that is sucking out the drainage in her belly.

she was also throwing up and they laughed when she asked them to wear gloves before touching her. Her arms were wet and moist and the triage person did not care to wear gloves even if it was to turn her arm a certain way. She then asked if they have a separate waiting room to put her in and they again laughed and said you have to wait in the main waiting room like all of the others.

Why wouldn’t they have a room for contagious people that have MRSA that is currently vomiting? Or what happens to people who have chicken pox and they sit next to someone like me who is 30 years old that has never had chicken pox. What happens to the people who have a weaken immune system and they sit out there with the healthy sick people.

My mom waited out in the waiting room for 4 hours and she ended up leaving. The next day her home health nurse made her go back to the ER because she has lost 20lbs and was still actively throwing up. She went in thru triage and immediately was sent back to a room. She is still in the hospital and they did find 3 other pockets that is filled with fluid and they need to be drained.

I understand the MRSA is different for people who are healthy. They usually can bounce back. But what about the ones who have a weak immune system.  And by the way my mom is a clean freak. So what happens when the bloggers like the ones who are on attack and are in denial of how serious MRSA really is start to blame the patient on poor hygiene when it is the hospital staff and the hospital itself that laughs when they are requested to wear gloves. And if you have ever seen some of the staff that cleans the hospital do you think they really take that much pride in cleaning. I know people who use to work sterilizing the equipment. What a big joke of workers they were. Needless to say they no longer work there. They were given the job because their mom was a head nurse and no one had the balls to say that person did not perform her job well because you do not want to have any conflict with her mom who was one of the head nurses.

This all is bad.  My mom is only 54 years old she looks terrible and who knows how much longer she will last. I wonder if those other bloggers work in the medical field.

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Another MRSA Death, More Heartbreak

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In January, I told you about three heinous infection situations — three people who contracted MRSA from negligence and bad medical protocol. At the time, I took some major hits from providers — in effect, chastising ME for the plight of these people, and taking offense to the fact that I blamed the professionals who should have been preventing these infections to begin with.

Word came this morning from my friend and colleague, Ilene Corina, patient safety expert and president of PULSE of NY (www.pulseofny.org ) about the death of Tameka, the young woman who over a year ago contracted MRSA after surgery in a Long Island, NY hospital. Ilene herself had been called in to see if there was anything she could do to help. She observed those same professionals providing care, changing dressings, with no gloves, not taking additional precautions.

Ilene has blogged about the experience of attending the young woman’s wake, and the follow up letter she received from the NY Dept of Health in which Tameka’s name was not even spelled correctly.

My heart breaks for Tameka’s family. This sort of horror only makes me dig in my heels even further to make sure YOU, my readers, understand how to protect yourself from the same demise.

Learn about how these deadly infections spread. Understand that they can too easily be contracted — by you or by your loved ones. And please, please, please take the simple steps required to prevent them!

It begins by insisting on handwashing.

And clearly, when that isn’t done, it ends in heartbreak.

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Hospitals, Never Events and Your Bill

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Last week was National Patient Safety Awareness Week. Seems like the press just caught up this week. From MSN and NBC, to Reuters, and hundreds of news outlets that are more regional or local in nature…. this week patient safety is the bulk of what I see in the headlines.

Most of us patients don’t give safety much thought. Afterall, the whole idea of seeking medical care is to improve our health and well being; not to make it worse. Sadly, for almost 100,000 Americans each year, patienting isn’t safe at all — it’s deadly.

The National Quality Forum, a combination government and not-for-profit agency, listed what it called “never events.” Included are drug errors, surgical errors, even criminal acts on the part of healthcare providers — or not prevented by healthcare providers.

Not listed, but just as deadly, are hospital acquired infections like MRSA.

What comes as a surprise to most is that even if a hospital or doctor has created an unsafe environment for you and you are harmed — you will get the bill for it! Say you acquire an infection while hospitalized. Not only do you have to stay in the hospital for several extra days or weeks, but you get the bill for it, too! Seriously — you get to pay for the additional insult, even though it was someone else’s fault.

That is now changing. Last year legislation was passed which allowed Medicare to proclaim that beginning in October of this year, Medicare will no longer pay for a list of eight medical mistakes; from MRSA acquisition to surgical errors to bedsores.

Now private insurers are saying they want to do the same, and their voices are getting louder.

The problem is, of course, that someone will have to pay the bill. A portion of the Medicare policy means that hospitals can’t bill the patients who suffer the errors — the hope being that instead, they will clean up their acts and stop commiting them.

But as I just said — someone will have to pay the bill. Will those of us not Medicare-insured end up paying the bill? Will those charges get hidden somewhere else? Will that 50 cent box of tissues we get billed for begin to cost us $5?

No specific answers for you today — just a caveat to stand back and watch out and be vigilant. There will be much more about this in the next several months. When coupled with the presidential elections only a month after the new policy goes into effect — well — it’s going to make for an interesting Fall.

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