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	<title>Comments on: Conspiracy Theorists and Flu Vaccines &#8211; Pick Another Battle Please</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with flu shots is simple- they&#039;re the cause of the flu. You may not be aware of this because you seem gullible and very trusting of lobbying companies, but flu vaccines contain the real deal... the live (mostly dead) thing. So sure a lot of people may get it an have a fairly decent immunity, but there&#039;s a small percentage that get sick from it, and usually very sick at that. This is where it gets sketchy... so what, they got sick from the vaccine, but they sneeze here and there, cough around the stores.... they not only spread the flu, but are the sole source of it. To show how gullible and blind people are, almost no one has taken in consideration that the flu &quot;session&quot; is when everyone gets their vaccines.... and if you&#039;re familiar with influenza you&#039;ll also know that there is no good reason for it to randomly disappear in the summer months since the virus can exist and spread in warm habitats (hence why the warmer continents also get the virus). Outside of huge pandemics (usually animal related) there hasn&#039;t been much documentation on basic random influenza outbreaks (especially seasonal) until after the original vaccine was first created in 1931. Am I saying it&#039;s some sort of conspiracy? I&#039;m not really into those type of things, but yes I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with flu shots is simple- they&#8217;re the cause of the flu. You may not be aware of this because you seem gullible and very trusting of lobbying companies, but flu vaccines contain the real deal&#8230; the live (mostly dead) thing. So sure a lot of people may get it an have a fairly decent immunity, but there&#8217;s a small percentage that get sick from it, and usually very sick at that. This is where it gets sketchy&#8230; so what, they got sick from the vaccine, but they sneeze here and there, cough around the stores&#8230;. they not only spread the flu, but are the sole source of it. To show how gullible and blind people are, almost no one has taken in consideration that the flu &#8220;session&#8221; is when everyone gets their vaccines&#8230;. and if you&#8217;re familiar with influenza you&#8217;ll also know that there is no good reason for it to randomly disappear in the summer months since the virus can exist and spread in warm habitats (hence why the warmer continents also get the virus). Outside of huge pandemics (usually animal related) there hasn&#8217;t been much documentation on basic random influenza outbreaks (especially seasonal) until after the original vaccine was first created in 1931. Am I saying it&#8217;s some sort of conspiracy? I&#8217;m not really into those type of things, but yes I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Fox News

H1N1 Flu Is a False Pandemic, Health Expert Claims 

From the article

&quot;A leading health expert said the swine flu scare was a &quot;false pandemic&quot; led by drug companies that stood to make billions from vaccines, The Sun reported Monday.

Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe, claimed major firms organized a &quot;campaign of panic&quot; to put pressure on the World Health Organization (WHO) to declare a pandemic...

&quot;But there is worse to come. The vaccine developed by Novartis was produced in a bioreactor from cancerous cells, a technique that had never been used until now.

&quot;This was not necessary. It has also led to a considerable mismanagement of public money&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Fox News</p>
<p>H1N1 Flu Is a False Pandemic, Health Expert Claims </p>
<p>From the article</p>
<p>&#8220;A leading health expert said the swine flu scare was a &#8220;false pandemic&#8221; led by drug companies that stood to make billions from vaccines, The Sun reported Monday.</p>
<p>Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe, claimed major firms organized a &#8220;campaign of panic&#8221; to put pressure on the World Health Organization (WHO) to declare a pandemic&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;But there is worse to come. The vaccine developed by Novartis was produced in a bioreactor from cancerous cells, a technique that had never been used until now.</p>
<p>&#8220;This was not necessary. It has also led to a considerable mismanagement of public money&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trisha

I just read a bit of your story about how you came to advocacy work and I think you are someone that so many parents, who watched theirs children regress into autism in direct correlation to a vaccine or a series of vaccines in one day, can relate to in terms of being &quot;led&quot; into advocacy work.

 We are not conspiracy theorists, for the most part. Of course it is an issue that draws that element, unfortunately.  This is a debate based in fact. Facts that have absolutely nothing to do with the conspiracy theories you have listed above. 

 In the past two years many in government and medicine have expressed the very concerns regarding vaccines that we have been expressing for years. 
I truly hope that you will read the sources that I provided in my previous post and also David Kirby&#039;s book &quot;Evidence of Harm&quot;. It is a shocking story and a great read in terms of parents love leading them into advocacy for the sake of all children. 

It really looks like you are doing some great work through this blog and I hope you will consider this issue, not from the perspective of the conspiracy theorists, but from the perspective of intelligent, reasonable parents who support advocacy groups like SafeMinds, National Autism Association and Generation Rescue. These groups are in a very different camp than those who push the conspiracy&#039;s you have listed above and many in government and science share the same concern as these parents. 

Again here is a link to a source that includes citations http://safeminds.org/news/pressroom/what-causes-autism-has-science-ruled-out-vaccines.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trisha</p>
<p>I just read a bit of your story about how you came to advocacy work and I think you are someone that so many parents, who watched theirs children regress into autism in direct correlation to a vaccine or a series of vaccines in one day, can relate to in terms of being &#8220;led&#8221; into advocacy work.</p>
<p> We are not conspiracy theorists, for the most part. Of course it is an issue that draws that element, unfortunately.  This is a debate based in fact. Facts that have absolutely nothing to do with the conspiracy theories you have listed above. </p>
<p> In the past two years many in government and medicine have expressed the very concerns regarding vaccines that we have been expressing for years.<br />
I truly hope that you will read the sources that I provided in my previous post and also David Kirby&#8217;s book &#8220;Evidence of Harm&#8221;. It is a shocking story and a great read in terms of parents love leading them into advocacy for the sake of all children. </p>
<p>It really looks like you are doing some great work through this blog and I hope you will consider this issue, not from the perspective of the conspiracy theorists, but from the perspective of intelligent, reasonable parents who support advocacy groups like SafeMinds, National Autism Association and Generation Rescue. These groups are in a very different camp than those who push the conspiracy&#8217;s you have listed above and many in government and science share the same concern as these parents. </p>
<p>Again here is a link to a source that includes citations <a href="http://safeminds.org/news/pressroom/what-causes-autism-has-science-ruled-out-vaccines.html" rel="nofollow">http://safeminds.org/news/pressroom/what-causes-autism-has-science-ruled-out-vaccines.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?  You&#039;ve never passed a cold or virus of any kind to anyone...ever?  I know, I know, you didn&#039;t really say that, but the last time I checked, this was still a free country where we get to make our own informed decisions about our health care. My decision, not anyone elses. Just like I decide to eat whatever I like... despite all the people with opinions and research to back up why what they eat is better. I can also choose to live where I like. But clearly there are places &quot;the experts&quot;  say are better or worse than others based on any number of criteria and facts. At the end of the day, we all have to live with our choices. Welcome to America.  My doctor recently pointed out to me that he &quot;practices&quot; medicine.  It&#039;s a rehearsal. An exploration. We all try our best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?  You&#8217;ve never passed a cold or virus of any kind to anyone&#8230;ever?  I know, I know, you didn&#8217;t really say that, but the last time I checked, this was still a free country where we get to make our own informed decisions about our health care. My decision, not anyone elses. Just like I decide to eat whatever I like&#8230; despite all the people with opinions and research to back up why what they eat is better. I can also choose to live where I like. But clearly there are places &#8220;the experts&#8221;  say are better or worse than others based on any number of criteria and facts. At the end of the day, we all have to live with our choices. Welcome to America.  My doctor recently pointed out to me that he &#8220;practices&#8221; medicine.  It&#8217;s a rehearsal. An exploration. We all try our best.</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha Torrey</title>
		<link>http://trishatorrey.com/2010/01/07/conspiracy-theorists-and-flu-vaccines-pick-another-battle-please/comment-page-1/#comment-32426</link>
		<dc:creator>Trisha Torrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Sorry -- I&#039;m not willing to give over this space to links to blogs that cite only opinion and no research to back them up.  If you think my post is propaganda for pharma then you have clearly never read my articles and blog posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Sorry &#8212; I&#8217;m not willing to give over this space to links to blogs that cite only opinion and no research to back them up.  If you think my post is propaganda for pharma then you have clearly never read my articles and blog posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I`m sorry to say but this article reads like a propaganda piece for the Pharmaceutical industry.
There is an alternative to vaccines for seasonal and swine flu,Vit D3, its inexpensive, its natural, and it works much better than any vaccine on the market.
Please take a look at these article about Vit D then do your own research.
Best regards 
Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I`m sorry to say but this article reads like a propaganda piece for the Pharmaceutical industry.<br />
There is an alternative to vaccines for seasonal and swine flu,Vit D3, its inexpensive, its natural, and it works much better than any vaccine on the market.<br />
Please take a look at these article about Vit D then do your own research.<br />
Best regards<br />
Jim</p>
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